Sophie Moser 0:02
Hey, I'm Sophie.
Sophia Barber 0:03
And I'm Sophia.
Sophie Moser 0:05
And this is the That's Showbiz, Baby! podcast.
Sophie Moser 0:12
Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the podcast. We're really excited that you're all here. And we want to kick off the episode today with some new music discovery and recommendations. So, I can go first. Today, I'm bringing the song "Ego" by Carly Hanson featuring Iann Dior. And this song is super fun. Um, let's take a listen. And then we can talk about it.
Audio 0:48
*Clip of song "Ego"*
Sophie Moser 1:06
I think this song is so much fun. I actually was given a sync assignment and sync is like music for TV and movies just like screen in general, which I know we've mentioned before, but I hadn't heard it and I listened to it and I loved it. I think it's such a fun hype up song, really good energy. Definitely just, I don't know, like I would work out to this song or just like, get ready to the song. Um, super fun. But, Sophia, why don't you- you want to play yours?
Sophia Barber 1:37
Yeah, my music recommendation for the week is a song called "Stella Brown", by Jelani Aryeh. And this came out in August, and he's a really cool alternative r&b artist that has really cool lyrical writing. And also, to everyone listening. Sophie and I have a That's Showbiz, Baby! Spotify playlist that's always in the description of our podcast, where you can check out all the music that we talk about on the show. But let's play you a clip of "Stella Brown."
Audio 2:06
*Clip of song "Stella Brown"*
Sophia Barber 2:40
So it's just a really chill song. It's nice to listen to, and I really like their voice. It has a really unique quality. So everyone, go check out these artists on Spotify, please. So for today's episode, we're going to be talking to Josh Smith, whose artist name is Clarence The Kid. So stay tuned for that interview.
Audio 3:04
*Transition Music (instrumental hip hop beat)*
Sophia Barber 3:06
Clarence The Kid is a multi talented, LA based artist and activist who uses his platform to both uplift his community and shed light on a range of complex topics such as mental health and intimacy. As a recent graduate of USC's Music Industry program, Clarence The Kid is able to balance the structure of the entertainment business with the freedom of creativity. His new album, entitled "Can You Hear Us Now?" tackles the emotions and frustrations that have enveloped America through the Black Lives Matter movement. So Josh, thank you so much for joining us today. How you doing?
Josh Smith 3:42
I'm doing great. I'm living my best life. How are y'all?
Sophia Barber 3:46
We're doing good.
Sophie Moser 3:46
Good!
Sophia Barber 3:46
You know as good as you can be.
Josh Smith 3:48
Okay, love to hear it.
Sophia Barber 3:51
How's your quarantine been?
Josh Smith 3:52
A little slow, but it has been pretty productive I guess. I've been staying home mostly. Picked up a job with instacart for a little side, side money, I guess. But for the most part has been a blessing in disguise because I've really had a lot of time to just buckle down and, and create, which is something I've never had the chance to do because I was always doing everything else. So quarantine's been cool, quarantine's been cool.
Sophia Barber 4:17
Looking at the bright side. I like that.
Josh Smith 4:19
Always.
Sophie Moser 4:21
So we have a question for you. That we've been asking our guests when they come on, um, and we're gonna put you on the spot a little bit here. But what are some music you've been listening to or some music recommendations you have?
Josh Smith 4:33
Oh, man, I just recently put together a notes page of just like all the albums- I'm an album guy. Like I don't listen to playlists as often as I should. Because most artists I listen to put together cohesive bodies of work. So right now the album's that I have on repeat are "Take Time" by Giveon. I love listening to uh- oh Reason just dropped a project from TDE called "New Beginnings" I've been listening to that. What else have I been listening to?R I've been listening to a lot of Khruangbin which is like kind of different, but it's cool. It's a little vibe.
Sophia Barber 5:15
Yeah.
Josh Smith 5:15
I don't know I'm all over the place. I'm all over the place. But those are probably my my three most played right now.
Sophia Barber 5:22
I love that the diversity of taste is excellent. Thank you for sharing. Um, so can you just tell us a little bit about yourself? You know where you're from? How'd you end up in LA? All that fun stuff.
Josh Smith 5:36
Sure, sure. Um, so I'm from San Jose, California, which is, you know, right in the heart of Silicon Valley. So that was cool. But it's, it's really lacking a lot of creative careers, I guess you could say like, it's very tech focused. And so growing up, I didn't even know there was an entertainment industry, I didn't know you could like, have jobs in there. I didn't know like all that. Because my whole life and all of that people around me were doing was like, going to tech startups or starting a business or being doctors or whatever. And so I felt a little weird in high school, because I was like, I don't want to do any of these things. But also, I have to get a career and I don't know what I'm going to do. And eventually, like I started digging around poking, prodding. And I was like, Okay, cool. There's some like music business programs like that's what's up, let me go check these out. And I found one at USC. And I was like, Yo, this is the perfect place. Because you know, it's in LA, which is great for just creativity, overall- global market. And you know, the weather's not too bad. It's not too far away from you know, my home home. So I can get back if I need to, but as far away where I feel independent. So that's how I kind of ended up here with that decision. And ever since then, like, it's just been a hustle, learning new things every day, trying to do- I try to learn as much as I can by myself. And- *weird noise* that was really weird. Someone just like shouted from across the room I don't even know.
Anyway, I try my best to learn all the skills that I can. So I can be fully involved in the creative process. Because I'm a really big believer in art. Just in general, it's more than just music. It's more than just the video. It's more than just the concept. It's the marriage of all these different aspects. And so I guess, and I don't know how far off topic this is going. But if I'm telling you about myself, it's basically like, I'm a hustler. I take challenges with open arms, and I'm just a huge child. I love playing with Legos, I regularly buy applesauce, you know, like, I watch cartoons in my downtime.And that's just me. That's That's me. So. Yeah.
Sophie Moser 8:04
Yeah, that's great. Um, so I know, you mentioned living in Silicon Valley a little bit, I think it's interesting that you've kind of, you know, made it down the coast. So what are some of the differences? I know, you touched on this a little bit, but as you've kind of explored more and more of the music scene, what are some of the differences you've noticed between even like, NorCal SoCal type of thing?
Josh Smith 8:26
Yeah, um, I mean, for people up in the Bay Area, at least in my pocket of the Bay Area, it's not super involved with entertainment, I guess, if you went more towards San Francisco or Oakland, you get a little bit more of that. But where I'm at music, TV, anything like that is kind of seen as something to you know, watch or listen to in your downtime. And so the whole the whole culture is different. I think when you're in somewhere, if you're in a place like LA, where a lifestyle could be integrated with that entertainment aspect. The the internal culture shifted, I feel like people down here are a lot more open minded and are, are open to their own creative expression. The outfits are definitely a lot cooler down here. I guess you could say like, just the the mentality is a lot more laid back. Because it's a it's a spectrum of people. Some people are like nine to five or some people are like me, who are just nocturnal. And so it's just there's a lot more pockets to fit into down here than there is up there. And, you know, I was recently looking through old pictures of myself like freshman year, sophomore year, and I was just like, Man, what was I doing? Like, my fashion sense was completely off the mark. Like I was like, looking at videos like why did I talk like that? Why was I acting like that. Like, it's It's such a big difference in the way people act out here than it is up there. But in a lot of ways, they're also pretty similar as far as like, you know, obviously weather stuff. As far as kind of the, the close friendships and connections that you'll make with people that kind of family aspect, like you'll find that that almost everywhere. So, you know, they're they're different enough. But also there is some there's some familiarity between the two places.
Sophia Barber 10:29
Yeah, that's nice. Um, did you start making music when you were living in San Jose? And were you doing it like, kind of by yourself? Or did you have friends that would do it with you?
Josh Smith 10:39
Yeah, I started making music probably like my sophomore or junior year of high school. And it wasn't really intentional. I was just like, always a little more rhythmically inclined, like, I was an annoying kid tapping pens in the back of the class and like, beat boxing and, you know, whatever. And then, you know, right around that time, I just became overwhelmed with just life in general became really depressed. And I've always been a giver. I've always been someone who would gladly take the load off someone else's shoulders. But one of my biggest struggles and downfalls is, it's hard for me to open myself up to someone else, and have them take take some of the stress off my shoulders. And so it was just kind of hard for me to cope with everything. And the way I started to deal with it was just by journaling, and writing my feelings down. And being, you know, the rhythmically inclined person I was, I just started like, rhyming the words. And then oh, there's a little groove with this. And oh, okay, let me rap this. And so as I started making the poems and making those those rap verses, it would feel like I was talking to someone while writing it down. And then when I was reading it back to myself, it was like I was responding, if that makes sense. And so that's just how I started to, like, have conversations. And that's why I think fast forward to now. A lot of my music is so vulnerable, and it's so like, story driven, or emotionally driven, because that's really how it started. I'm really bad at writing verses that don't have to do with anything. I think that's the hardest thing, like, it's a talent to be able to write a verse about nothing. I don't know how to do that. And so I guess that's, that's really where it started. And then once I kind of got over that, that period of depression and insecurity and whatever else have you. I started to branch out and use that skill set to tell other people's stories or to reflect on situations that I was currently going through, something in the past or whatever. In an effort to help someone else relate, and have a way to, to process something like I did. So yeah, that's how I did it.
Sophie Moser 13:04
Yeah, that's great. So can you tell us a little bit about your artist persona, Clarence The Kid, and kind of how you created that identity?
Josh Smith 13:14
Yeah, um, as far as the persona goes, Josh and Clarence are one in the same. My mom and dad, they gave me the, here's my government name, don't steal my identity. But my name is Joshua Aaron Smith. And those are very basic common names. Because they both come from business worlds, from tech worlds, where the competition level is very high. And they also just didn't want me to face any sort of bias or discrimination based off like my name on a resume or job application. And so when they figured I was going into entertainment and music. It was kind of like, Ah, man, like, that's like the worst thing to have for that, you know, you can't cut through the clutter. So I know I needed something else. I always knew that I wanted something with kid or child or or youth or something associated with my name, because I really feel like people grow up way too quickly. Whether they want to or because they have to. And it's really kind of sad to see how many people let go of that, that sort of wonder and amusement that comes with with being young. And so, I always knew that I wanted that to be like an integral part of who I am trying to bring that youth back trying to bring back your inner child. As far as the Clarence part, I don't know if either you've ever seen the movie "8 Mile" with Eminem but um, there's basically the there's a rival gang, I guess you could say. But they're also like rappers and artists. And they're bullying Eminem and his crew like the entire movie, just like jumping on them and then whatever, whatever, whatever. And it gets the rap battle scene at the end and basically, Eminem has this one verse where he's talking about oh, his name was Papa Doc, the other rapper. So like Papa Doc isn't really like who he says he is. And in the verse he's talking about like, oh, Papa Doc goes to this school. It's a private school. And it's he got- his real name is Clarence, and Clarence, his parents have a real good marriage, and da da da da da. And everyone's like, oh, like, he's not a real rapper. And that always kind of stuck out to me, because, again, growing up in San Jose, especially listening to the popular rap music at the time, which was like, dang, what was that? 20- 2012, 2013 so it was like a lot of like Lil Wayne, it was a lot of like, or just Young Money in general, Chief Keef was big. Like, I don't know, it was just a lot of music, where I couldn't necessarily relate to the experiences of the rapper firsthand. Like, I knew nothing about trap houses, I knew nothing about women, I knew nothing about gang mentality, I knew nothing about really anything. And so the only artists that I could really relate to, to a certain extent were Jaden Smith and Childish Gambino. Because they were more introspective and focused on like, where the mind was going. And so a lot of the times I felt left out of the conversation, or just kind of lost trying to figure out how to rap or what to write about, because I could never relate to anything else. So I kind of took that, that Clarence. This, I guess, you could say, from "8 Mile" and flipped it on its head. And it was like, well, you know, I do have both of my parents still, they're still together, I did go to a private school, you know what I'm saying, but I don't think that makes me any less of an artist. Like it gives me a different perspective, sure. But I don't think it invalidates me as a rapper. So I just kind of took it to heart and embraced it. And so that's how you got Clarence The Kid.
Sophia Barber 16:57
That's actually a really cool background story. And I was not like expecting that. I figured it was like maybe your middle name or something. But I that's really cool. So Clarence The Kid just released an incredible and inspiring EP about police brutality and the Black Lives Matter protests called "Can You Hear Us Now?" And everyone should please go stream it because it's really good. And you shared on your Instagram that you created it to not only share your stories, but also the various voices and frustrations of a movement that has been long overdue. So if you wouldn't mind could you tell us a little bit more about it and your creative process?
Josh Smith 17:34
Yeah, um, can you hear us and I was kind of crazy, because I mean, I just rereleased it two days ago, well, I don't know when this is airing, but October 14. And the original- let me backtrack. Okay. When I first made the project, it was, I think I started it on on the blackout Tuesday, whatever date that was, I think it was what July second, or something?
Sophia Barber 18:04
Something around there.
Josh Smith 18:06
Or June 2nd or something like that. And I remember disconnecting from my phone being so overwhelmed with like, everything that was going on, like, from from where I'm living, I could hear all the helicopters, sirens, explosions going on in downtown. I couldn't like escape to social media, because just like scrolling, scrolling through all these different clips of everything happening. So I just kind of felt trapped in it. I just had to disconnect. And I was like, Okay, what do I need to do in order to kind of gain a sense of stability again, for me what I go to is songwriting. And so I really just sat there on that night and wrote up the entire album, with the exception of the first verse of Expendable, which I had written about a week and a half prior, when I had gotten pulled over, right after like, this is right after the Ahmaud Arbery thing. And so that left me in a wreck too cause I was like, Oh my god, I'm gonna die like ahhhh. So that's when I wrote Expendable, but then everything else was written that one night and then everything was was produced and recorded, mixed and mastered within the rest of that week. So the whole project, with the exception of the one verse was put together in a one week timeframe and then put out and originally it was just for me, but then other people that I was sending it to, they're like, Oh, this is dope. Like this is super just beautiful the way you've you've combined like your own perspective with protesters voices with all the sounds and everything like that. It's almost like a documentary like an audible documentary. And I was like, wow, that's it's cool that you know, something I use for myself was able to help someone else. And then so over the next you know, few months, I gave myself a little break from it. Then I came back from it, I ended up re-recording the whole thing, and re-mixing remastering it to make it like a little bit more professional sounding. Put it out onto all platforms. I just released a music video. Well, in a few minutes it's going to be out. But, the music video for the first 15 seconds of Kabwasa's Intro followed by the entire track for Exhausted followed by the entire track for Two Choices. So it's kind of a three for one. Another video's on the way for Black Boys Cry, there's a deluxe album coming as well. So it's just been kind of a difficult but also beautiful journey, putting together the project because obviously it was written in a lot of pain and uncomf- or discomfort and all kinds of emotions. But at the same time, I felt like, you know, having this skill set that I do as far as storytelling and being able to be vulnerable. I feel like that was an important thing to put to use for something like, like this project or use it for a movement like this. Because unfortunately, like it's a cyclical movement, it's going to come back, it's going to fade away, it's going to come back again. And so for me, the album that I always hop to when things got bad was ALL-AMERIKKKAN BADA$$ by Joey Bada$$. And so I feel like I lowkey made another version of that. But that's more personal to myself that people will keep going back to. And so that's kind of the story with the album. It's just ever growing ever evolving. After the deluxe I'm gonna like kind of leave the topic alone for a little while. But yeah, it's a, it's a cool, it's a cool little journey I've been on.
Sophia Barber 21:34
They always say that, you know, the best songs and the best albums come to people really quickly. So not surprised, I'm impressed that you got it together really quickly. But I'm not surprised.
Josh Smith 21:43
Me too.
Sophie Moser 21:46
Yeah, that's a really just compelling story to hear the background behind it. And I know earlier, you mentioned that you really have an appreciation for just a lot of types of art, like not specifically music, but kind of just looking at it as a more holistic project. So were there any other I mean, you touched on the music videos, but kind of going beyond that, were there any other kind of mediums that you were working with, as you were working on the project.
Josh Smith 22:13
Um, other mediums, I mean, I edit my own videos and direct and produce them all. So that was one of the forms of interpreting the music. I feel like, if I had a budget, and all the time in the world, every single song that I created would have a music video with it. They're really important to me, and I think it's beautiful to visually see, you know, the sounds coming to life. I am not going to share it anywhere. But you know, I have a couple of doodles, or you know, little drawings and things, but I'm not the best, you know, visual artist. So we'll let that slide. And then I have a couple- couple homies who are like actually, computer design graphics artists or actual like, paint, charcoal, whatever. And I really just enjoyed seeing their work. Photographers who are out there. That's another thing with the Exhausted music video that just coming out. A lot of the footage in that video, obviously was like, filmed by me and my team. But about half of it is photos and videos from my friends who were at protests. And so just seeing what they were seeing in different cities, like whether it was a professional camera, or just like a little Snapchat video. Those also get integrated, I think anything could be art, anything could be combined into an art form. And so really, if, if I saw anything or heard anything that made me feel some type of way. And that positively contributed to the projects. It became part of it. And yeah, that's how, I guess I've been combining art specifically with this project, but whenever I see art anywhere, it just inspires me, whether it's like a direct or abstract thing. Like I'm always seeing things and be like, wow, that's the way that the spirals in this notebook are going like that's kind of cool. Like, maybe that might impact me some way somehow, later on. Everything is art.
Sophia Barber 24:28
Don't be shy Josh, share the doodles. I want to see them.
Josh Smith 24:30
Ahhhh you don't want to see all the doodles.
Sophia Barber 24:37
So you just graduated from USC as a music industry major, right?
Sophia Barber 24:42
Correct.
Sophia Barber 24:43
Okay, what was your experience at USC like? And yeah, just give us kind of the rundown on that.
Josh Smith 24:51
Um, it was a mixed bag. It was a mixed bag. I think. Obviously, for the most part, it was a beautiful experience, mostly because coming from something like or somewhere like San Jose, with no knowledge of the music industry's existence, no connections in it, and no idea how anything works. The music industry program at USC definitely, like opened my eyes to all the different career paths within the industry. And like all the different things you can do creatively and artistically. And so a lot of my growth and progression I do owe to the program of people I've met through the program. But at the same time, there were some thorns with those roses, because I remember most of the classes I was sitting in, like I was looking around, and no one for the most part looked like me, like there were very few if any black kids in there. And that was, like, I grew up as a minority my entire life. So like, that wasn't like too different from the norm. But seeing it in a music industry perspective, where most of the the top 40, or popular music right now is created by black artists. It was like kind of strange seeing it, where like, none of them were really in control of what they were making. And then also, I guess, what is present through the the professors and stuff that they have, they're all great professors, I love them all. But a lot of them come from the rock world, or they come from the jazz world, or the pop world.
Sophia Barber 26:26
Yeah.
Josh Smith 26:26
And no one really talks about hip hop or r&b like that throughout the entire time I was there. And so as we're going through exercises about, you know, route a tour and make a marketing plan, and you know, go through this and that, and that, it would always be in genres that I wasn't too knowledgeable about. But I guess that was a blessing in disguise as well, because I have to force myself to learn. And then when it came time to apply it to my own career, I'd have to rework and figure out how to make it work for myself. And so, like I said, it was a mixed bag, but for the most part, like, it was just a great experience and everyone that I know, within the industry. I don't think I would have met them had I not gone to USC had I not been in proximity of Los Angeles, have I not, you know, met people through mutual connections and everything like that. So, so yeah, it's, it's cool. I just wish I didn't graduate during a pandemic. That kind of sucks.
Sophia Barber 27:27
Yeah.
Josh Smith 27:27
It is what it is. Because as you both know, like live music is, is probably where I'm going to go if the artist path doesn't really work out, or whatever, isn't sustainable. And so I had like a lot of summer plans lined up as far as festivals, and here and there, and it was gonna be good, I was gonna get my bag and then you know, it was gone. So learning to readjust. Like I said, everything is a blessing in disguise, learning how to readjust, learning how to re-assess your plans and figure out what to do in the meantime, has been the upside of the pandemic. So overall, it's been a roller coaster. Nothing's perfect, but I just try my best to take the the pieces of life as they come and enjoy them if I can.
Sophie Moser 28:21
Yeah, totally. I think we're all kind of learning that flexibility is really important right now. Um, even though some of it is kind of unfortunate, some of the change, but yeah, um, so you're managed by Michel Alcoser, who is also a USC student. So how did that partnership start?
Josh Smith 28:42
Um, so literally, I've been looking for a manager for such a long time. Ever since like freshman year, just because like, like I said earlier, I love learning everything I can and applying it to myself, but at the same time, if you wear too many hats, like you're never gonna get anything done. And so I was like, I just need somebody who understands where my head's at. Who knows, you know, what I know, and maybe more. And who can just work with me to just get things done. Lowkey, for a while I was like, how can I find an intern? But like, no one's gonna intern. But yeah, so I was always looking, I was always looking, I went through a handful of people. And either they just said they were like, super interested in helping me out. And then like, after the phone call, after the meeting, it would just kind of like phase off and like, I wouldn't hear from them again. I'd be like oh, okay, cool. Or, you know, just dynamics weren't working and people trying to be too controlling or whatever. So I was kind of just like, minding my own business. I was like, you know, if I'm gonna get a manager they gonna come to me or they'll fall in my lap, and you know, I got to stop trying to make something work and just let it happen. And I remember my last semester of college. I was sitting in my music management class. And I remember seeing this kid who was like, in the back, and he was like taking very copious notes. Like everyone was kind of messing around and, you know, talking and here he was, like, focus, like, eyes wide. Like getting every single word down he could and I was like, okay, noted, noted, noted. And then, like, I think the next day, he came in like a Tyler The Creator shirt. And then he like referenced, like Smino or something. And I was like, huh, okay, like he likes, you know, some music that I really f*** with. Op, by bad.
Sophia Barber 30:46
I'm gonna have to bleep you, Josh.
Josh Smith 30:49
He likes a lot of music that I really mess with. And that's kind of rare in the program, just like seeing people, because there are people who like really like r&b and rap. But I feel like people like Tyler The Creater or Smino or he was even really into, you know, more lyrical rap as well. That's not a sub genre that you really see a lot of, or that at least I haven't seen a lot of the USC music industry kids get into. But that is my pocket. Like I live and breathe that. And so to see him be into that kind of music as well as like, okay, okay. Okay. Cool. noted, noted. Um, and he just seemed like a good guy. Like, you both know him. And he's just like, a, he's just a sweetie. I guess you could say.
Sophie Moser 31:36
Truly.
Josh Smith 31:38
And eventually, I was like, You know what, like, I know, I said, I wasn't gonna look for anybody right now. But here he is just like such a, such a warrior. Just doing everything he can to learn and soak up as a sponge. Someone who understands kind of my, my genre, or my lane of the music industry. And so let me just let me just go holla at him and see what's up, just be like, hey, you want to just like meet up and just discuss this. And so I sat down, I gave him my little pitch. And through all the years of self management and the classes I've taken, like, I already had all my assets together, I had like a pitch deck, I had an EPK, I had a one sheet. I had, like, all these different things laid out in this intense Google Drive folder hierarchy. And I just kind of went through all the assets with him and I was like, look, this is who I am. And hopefully, like, you relate, or you can you can get behind it. Because I'm looking for someone to help. I don't know what capacity yet, but I just get like a vibe from you. And I feel like you are someone who can understand me. And he just like, before the meeting was even over. He's like, yes, like I'll do it. Like he saw the Google Drive folder open. I was like, Yes, yes, yes, yes, I'll do it. And since then, it's just been, it has been hitting the ground running and he's just been a champ. Like between going to school and then like doing two internships and and managing another band. And just everything isn't- Oh, and the directing the radio station, everything like that, like he's got a lot on his plate, but he still always finds the time to make time. And I really respect that about him. And I feel like that's that's a trait and a quality that a lot of people just don't have the patience for or don't have the capacity to to handle all of it as well as he does. And so he'll definitely be sticking around for the foreseeable future as long as he'll have me so it's cool.
Sophia Barber 33:38
Shout out to Mitchell everyone, if you're listening. I hope you are you should be.
Josh Smith 33:42
He probably will. He'll send me like heartfelt text that's what he does.
Sophia Barber 33:48
So because you also have the knowledge, the degree in music industry, the business. How do you guys split up the work? Or do you or does he does- do all of the business stuff?
Josh Smith 34:00
Um, it's kind of an even split for now. It's honestly he probably could take over most if not all the work but after doing it by myself so long, it's kind of it's a slow transition for me to try to give up work you know what I'm saying. Um, but at least with this project, I was in charge of like all the creative stuff. There wasn't like really anyone to network with because it was made at the beginning of quarantine. And so I had already had like, my producer friends who had sent me packs that I you know, wrote the songs to and everything like that. But I guess as we're moving into the to the deluxe rollout, and the music video rollout and everything like that, what he's been really big on helping with is just PR and finding interviews, finding blogs and people to really dive into the content. He's been plugging me just about any way he could, whether it's at his his work, internships, whether it's like random Reddit threads or whatever. And he's never tried to offer insight. And he just gives his opinion, his honest opinion on everything. And so as things goes on, and we move on to the next project, which we're aiming for, like, maybe April, maybe May, a little tiny thing, nothing, nothing crazy. But as we move into that, you know, we're, we're still kind of like, I guess co-managing myself, I guess you could say or, like, you know, we, there's, there's a lot of work to be done and we just do it. It doesn't matter who's doing it, who's the artist who's the manager, who's the co-manager, like, whatever it is just like, if there's work to be done, we'll do it. And that's that.
Sophie Moser 35:48
Very nice. That's really cool that you guys can be such a team. Well, I think we're gonna wrap up for today, but where can people find you?
Josh Smith 35:59
Man, you can find me just about anywhere. I guess obviously, Spotify, Apple Music, SoundCloud, yada yadi I'm not gonna go through the list you know the list.
Sophia Barber 36:10
Yeah.
Josh Smith 36:11
I guess the target destinations are going to be YouTube, my website clarencethekid.com And it's not crazy, but like, I like Twitter a lot. So that's where I live. I don't really like Instagram like that. Yeah. So yeah, find me on Twitter if you want to interact, shoot me a follow. And yeah, I'm just about anywhere, very accessible. I don't know why I'm talking like a big time hotshot. Like, no, I like I love talking to people interacting with people. So that's me. Clarence The Kid. C-L-A-R-E-N-C-E T-H-E K-I-D yeah.
Sophia Barber 36:54
Amazing. I love that. That you had that rehearsed.
Josh Smith 36:57
Oh, yeah.
Sophie Moser 36:57
Prepared.
Sophia Barber 37:00
Well, thank you again so much for joining us. It was a great interview. A blast catching up with you.
Josh Smith 37:06
Whoo. Thanks for having me for real this is cool.
Sophia Barber 37:09
Thank you all for listening. You can find us on Instagram at Sophia.productions. And please go rate, download, and follow wherever you get your podcasts.
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